[Tuto] [EN/FR] Install/Installer nBoot + ControlX (+Linux)

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **Tommykaira** » 18 Apr 2017, 17:15

Thanks for the clear and extensive guide critor!
Worked perfectly.

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **Bisam** » 18 Apr 2017, 17:29

Tommykaira wrote:Worked perfectly.

I'm so jealous !!
Why isn't this working for me ?

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **critor** » 18 Apr 2017, 18:14

I don't know.

Which Nspire models do you own, Bisam ?

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **Tommykaira** » 18 Apr 2017, 18:23

I copied a few files to documents and it seems like it then entered an infinite boot loop after I restarted. (It will show the gray background with the clock for a few seconds and then reboot itself over and over)
The last thing I installed was nClock (in ndless/startup) so I uninstalled the CAS OS and deleted nClock and proceeded to reinstall the CAS OS.
Everything works like normal again.

Bisam wrote:Why isn't this working for me ?

Try backing up your documents and installing with no unnecessary files in documents as it seems that ndless startup apps might interfere as critor suggested earlier.

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **critor** » 18 Apr 2017, 18:27

Yes, nClock hasn't been updated for OSes 4.0.3+.
The problem is the OS refresh behaviour has been changed, and a new inject zone has to be found.

I've already told Bisam to temporarily remove all Ndless startup programs one by one.
Apparently, the problem is something else...

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **geekpersonman** » 19 Apr 2017, 00:47

Tommykaira wrote:I copied a few files to documents and it seems like it then entered an infinite boot loop after I restarted. (It will show the gray background with the clock for a few seconds and then reboot itself over and over)
The last thing I installed was nClock (in ndless/startup) so I uninstalled the CAS OS and deleted nClock and proceeded to reinstall the CAS OS.
Everything works like normal again.

Bisam wrote:Why isn't this working for me ?

Try backing up your documents and installing with no unnecessary files in documents as it seems that ndless startup apps might interfere as critor suggested earlier.

I noticed on my HW-T issues during startup with nClock as well.
Do linux, CM or development OS's work?
I have also observed that that when switching the OS with NswitchOS (which I find a lot more convenient than the computer because I do not have to deal with the patcher not working during install) the catalog the listing of all the functions gets out of sync with the description at the bottom and it crashes in CAS when performing a regression. Has anybody else experienced these issues?

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **parrotgeek1** » 19 Apr 2017, 07:40

geekpersonman wrote:I have also observed that that when switching the OS with NswitchOS (which I find a lot more convenient than the computer because I do not have to deal with the patcher not working during install) the catalog the listing of all the functions gets out of sync with the description at the bottom and it crashes in CAS when performing a regression. Has anybody else experienced these issues?

@critor

This is because when you switch the OS, you need to also extract the filesystem.zip from TI-Nspire.img
otherwise the strings.res are still from the old wrong OS

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **critor** » 19 Apr 2017, 09:26

geekpersonman wrote:I noticed on my HW-T issues during startup with nClock as well.

Don't use nClock with OSes 4.0.2+. For the moment, we don't know how to update it correctly.

geekpersonman wrote:Do linux, CM or development OS's work?

Yes, Linux is working.
All TI-Nspire CX/CM OS's I have should be working, even development ones, after correctly switching the 7/8/9 options in the ControlX menu. I spent days testing all of them one by one with each compatible setup.
This includes all OS's hosted on tiplanet.org.

But you need to own a compatible hardware.
3.0.0-3.2.0 won't work on hardware revisions J+.
3.0.0-3.9.0 won't work on hardware revisions S+.
4.0.0+ won't work on models with only 32MiB SDRAM (TI-Nspire CX prototypes and TI-Nspire CM).

Also, the patches are specific to each OS version.
So if you've got a version we don't have, you either need to decrypt it and share the offsets to patch, or to share the file with us (privately is not a poblem).

geekpersonman wrote:I have also observed that that when switching the OS with NswitchOS (which I find a lot more convenient than the computer because I do not have to deal with the patcher not working during install) the catalog the listing of all the functions gets out of sync with the description at the bottom and it crashes in CAS when performing a regression. Has anybody else experienced these issues?

Thanks for the bug report.
NswitchOS is especially useful with installing OS versions 3.0.0-3.3, since OS/Boot2 versions 3.6+ are going to reject them.
Since Boot2 4.0.3 is still needed for ControlX to be fully working, the other solution would be to flash an older Boot2 3.0.0-3.2.4 (except version 3.1.0 which is not supported correctly) somewhere else in your Boot2/Diags/ExtnD partitions if you still have enough free space.
Unfortunately, I didn't anticipate this when writing the tutorial.

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **geekpersonman** » 19 Apr 2017, 23:32

critor wrote:Also, the patches are specific to each OS version.
So if you've got a version we don't have, you either need to decrypt it and share the offsets to patch, or to share the file with us (privately is not a poblem).

I am using the 4.4 CAS patch, I think there are just some extra patches required to get the regressions to work.

critor wrote:NswitchOS is especially useful with installing OS versions 3.0.0-3.3, since OS/Boot2 versions 3.6+ are going to reject them.
Since Boot2 4.0.3 is still needed for ControlX to be fully working, the other solution would be to flash an older Boot2 3.0.0-3.2.4 (except version 3.1.0 which is not supported correctly) somewhere else in your Boot2/Diags/ExtnD partitions if you still have enough free space.
Unfortunately, I didn't anticipate this when writing the tutorial.

Does this mean I shouldn't use it for newer OS versions?

And also, according to this page: https://hackspire.org/index.php/OS_upgrade_files
couldn't you just check (8080 - 8 : The first 4 bytes are the OS base address: address to which the OS will be copied by boot 2(0x10000000). ) for OS information?

→ **MyCalcs** profile · by **critor** » 20 Apr 2017, 00:58

geekpersonman wrote:
critor wrote:Also, the patches are specific to each OS version.
So if you've got a version we don't have, you either need to decrypt it and share the offsets to patch, or to share the file with us (privately is not a poblem).

I am using the 4.4 CAS patch, I think there are just some extra patches required to get the regressions to work.

I was talking about the patches included in ControlX. It can only fully work with OSes it knows about.

geekpersonman wrote:
critor wrote:NswitchOS is especially useful with installing OS versions 3.0.0-3.3, since OS/Boot2 versions 3.6+ are going to reject them.
Since Boot2 4.0.3 is still needed for ControlX to be fully working, the other solution would be to flash an older Boot2 3.0.0-3.2.4 (except version 3.1.0 which is not supported correctly) somewhere else in your Boot2/Diags/ExtnD partitions if you still have enough free space.
Unfortunately, I didn't anticipate this when writing the tutorial.

Does this mean I shouldn't use it for newer OS versions?

You may use it, no problem other than the bug you've reported.
It's just that for OS's 3.6+, you have other not too complicated ways to install them.
For OS's 3.0.0-3.3, you don't...

geekpersonman wrote:And also, according to this page: https://hackspire.org/index.php/OS_upgrade_files
couldn't you just check (8080 - 8 : The first 4 bytes are the OS base address: address to which the OS will be copied by boot 2(0x10000000). ) for OS information?

In which tool ?